Archbishop Renato Raffaele Martino, permanent observer of the Holy See at the United Nations in New York and head of the Vatican delegation at the WSSD, was interviewed by Martin Maier SJ (Germany). Anticipating the intervention he will make in the plenary next week, Abp Martino underlined the eradication of poverty as the main issue at Johannesburg. This is the pre-requisite for any development. Then in particular, the problem of water, the vital element for everybody but to which 3bn in the world have very limited access — and how much water goes wasted in the developed world! A third point will focus on agriculture and rural areas, since rural workers without future perspectives leave in their millions for the cities — thus the phenomenon of the megalopolis with their shanty-towns all around. Small initiatives to promote rural workers and rural areas would mean a lot.